I believe the Bible (at very least the Old testament) was describing real events more often then not. Myths, like in the Bible, are simply stories about real events that were changed (usually -or likely- out of misinterpretation and ignorance) over time. I believe in taking our worldview of history from all the sources there are available to us, not just one compiled book of oral traditions passed down for many generations, translated numerous times from fragmented partial copies of singular books, and changed at will by numerous powerful people. (The Bible)
Also, as any good historian knows, for history to be as accurate as possible, you must go back to the original sources to find out the truth about something. . .or at least to understand what was perceived as truth at that time.
The Hebrews took much of the knowledge of creation from the Babylonians, who had in turn learned their stories from the Sumerians.
Differences in Religion are purely in the details and the facades we place around our core beliefs in order to appear unique. Unlike the magical biblical tale of a word from god and *poof*, man was made, the Sumerian text gives many more original details though. That is because "the Hebrew characters (letters) ARE NOT HEBREW AT ALL! They are merely a phonetic shorthand of an ancient SUMERIAN poem! (Very similar to the Egyptian BOOK OF THE DEAD!)"
"The scholar reveals a simple way to create the full Sumerian text phonetically using 4 Simple Rules. Two of the Rules are the main Hebrew Rules for assumptive “A” vowels and doubling of internal consonants. You IGNORE Israeli vowel points! He explains that modern copies of the Torah (first 5 Books of the Bible) had Israeli vowel points ADDED to the texts only a couple of thousand years ago. They were added to HIDE the Sumerian origin of the words!"
"Ancient Biblical Hebrew HAD NO VOWEL POINTS! A few characters are the ancient vowels, and several letters that appear to be duplicate letters, are actually letters with a vowel attached. (Example : “k” is
both kaph and Qoph in Hebrew. The Qoph is really a “ku”.)"
"Using only four simple rules, the Hebrew text of Chapter One literally EXPLODES into a rich Sumerian poetic text. Chapter One in Hebrew has only 31 verses with about 400 Hebrew words. The TRUE TEXT is
approximately 2,000 Sumerian words, with over 400 lines of text! Each Hebrew word is a full line of phonetic Sumerian! It's five times more info in Sumerian!"
“A lot of the stories in the Old Testament are in fact plagiarized material, particularly from the rich mythical heritage of the Sumerians – the inventors of writing. The story of Noah and the flood story, the creation of man out of clay,Cain and Abel, the gardens of Eden, the tree of knowledge, creation of Eve from Adams rib, and numerous other myths, like the throwing of Moses after he was born in the river, are all but stories found recorded on Sumerian clay tablets dating 5000 years back in time”
… Since at least 1963 it has been common knowledge among the scholars of history, archaeology and anthropology about the Sumerian text being the origin of the original stories of the Bible. Which if understood properly changes everything that was written later. . .
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The cradle of civilization in Sumer is a mysterious place that seemingly came out of no where. It had not only amazing culture and a modern city with high rises, a sewer system and running water, but quite possibly power and technology all over 6,000 years ago! There goes the outdated belief in how stupid the ancient people were. (We have actually LOST some of the ancient technology like green power and the ability to levitate using sound. I may get into that later. . .)
This land on the Persian Gulf of Mesopotamia is where we find the origin of all the original myths. Thankfully the stories are well preserved and written in stone! In fact, there are so many stone cylinder seals from the cradle of civilization that we haven't read all of them yet! (How I wish more people could translate them!)
Since the discovery and translation of these cylinder seals, educated and open minded people have a new understanding of history and the being(s) who have been mistranslated as god(s) through the ages.
The "gods" were always described as "Those who from Heaven to Earth Came", in a word, the Annunaki. They were not just one "God" (as the Christians believe mostly from numerous intentional mistranslations of the Hebrew word Elohim) but many! Actually the better translation of the original "ilu" word translated as Elohim /gods or God, just means "tall men". . . as I went over in my post: "Are you a child of God? part 5")
These "gods", though depicted as taller, and also being called "tall" , nonetheless looked like many of us today. This is evidenced in the many different cultures depictions of their gods. Like the Nordic gods, the Titans or the Greek gods. . . they were actually the gods of all the cultures of the world though originally! Even the black man's creator gods, when described at all, were said to be white! Which is kind of funny as many websites have cropped up saying how much greater the black man's gods are to the white man's. . .sorry folks, they are all the same.
These people though normal looking (except taller) by our westernized standards today, were aliens to the planet when they came, as they both claimed (even in their connection to Jesus, god's son, who's kingdom was not of this world) and as we can now see by those they genetically manipulated to be in their own image, or "the children of God" as they were later called. The children of God had an incompatible blood with the original beings on this planet, and they were a blood found nowhere else on the planet. (This pure blood is O- Showing up as either dominant RH- [A-, B-, AB- or O-] or recessive RH- [O+] in their children. For more on this check out my posts:
Racism and the RH factor. part 2
An Atheist admits that the Biblical accounts of origins have their base in truth. Part 4
These aliens came to our planet in search for gold according to the Sumerians, the first civilization. Gold is a common theme in mythology. It was also mentioned by "God" in Gen. 2:11-12 [in the] land of Hav'ilah. . .there is gold; 12. and the gold of that land is good. . ." Why does God (presuming he was speaking and wrote the Bible) excitedly single out the gold and care about gold if he made it you might wonder?
Gold seems to have been used by the gods as a source of electrical power, because of it's conducting ability. . . as seen in the ark of the covenant and the top of the pyramids. (Some are theorizing now that many of the ancient pyramids were made to extract gold out of water, a theory I have personally been impressed with.)
Gold fillings are also said to be able to conduct so well that radio frequencies have been picked up with them. . .could voices in people's heads be explained by this? While we don't know that people needed fillings at all in the far past, as they ate much healthier, we could guess that as a precious commodity in the far past, as not too long ago, sculls may have been vandalized to take the gold if there were fillings. So we may never know if they used gold for teeth as well.
Gold was apparently also used in massive amounts in dust form in the atmosphere of the aliens home planet, to repair the ozone layer. As it is used by astronauts to deflect radiation in space suits and spaceships today, and being one of the rare mineral that can be broken down to molecules, making it stay put in the atmosphere, it seems a logical story that they claimed 6,000 years ago. . .maybe it could be a solution to our ozone issues too. . .if we had enough left on earth to do it!
I'm not sure if it being in their atmosphere would mean they breathed it, and consequently glowed or what. . .but it seems that maybe they did glow, for whatever reason. Thus the writings and depictions of glowing or halos around the heads of all the gods or demi-gods. Moses after being with the gods on the mountain top was said to have glowed, and even the biblical Mary who was (likely invitro) impregnated by an "Angel". . .(which as I stated in my post: An Atheist admits that the Biblical accounts of origins have their base in truth. Part 4 is the same word that is translated elsewhere as God/gods/sons of God.)
"Ingested particles of gold have been used by mankind for over 5000 years as a medicine in China and by Queen Nefertiti and Cleopatra of ancient Egypt for its amazing health and beauty benefits. Its ability to impart physical and mental health benefits is unparalleled. This precious metal has powerful effects on physical, emotional and spiritual health. It has the ability to increase happiness, bring about a state of complete relaxation and calm the entire nervous system all while increasing IQ by 35%!! Gold can also be used to treat painful conditions of muscles and joints such as those experienced with rheumatoid arthritis. It can also help treat Parkinson’s disease, reverse the symptoms of Attention Deficit Disorder and as an overall remedy for other conditions related to brain degradation. Gold also functions as a catalyst for endorphins and antioxidant enzymes." Or so the internet tells me. . .
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When the Europeans went to America, they were told by the natives that the gold belonged to the gods. . . that had previously been there. This belief in the gold (and actually silver too) belonging to the gods makes a statement of Jesus very profound. . .he said when asked if the people should pay taxes, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar 's, and to God that which is God's". As all precious metals were God's, even though it was being used by Caesar (one of his children), it was clear that Jesus was saying that you should not pay taxes, but give it to the gods. That fits well with his rebel anarchist ways a lot better then the typical translation don't you think?
Anyhow, the rest of the story in the Sumerian text get's better yet!
The work of gold digging was a tough job for the small group of the Annunaki, and they were at the point of mutiny against the head of the operations there when about 300, 000 years ago he left the gold mines to study the nearby primates. So, when he came back they discussed what they could do to help relieve them. They at first disagreed on how they should proceed. Some of the aliens said they should make machines, and others spoke of putting the locals to work. . . as we would today a pack mule, cattle, a horse, etc.
While their own planet had long ago outlawed any species enslaving another, one of the top guys justified using the earths locals that he had been studying (the homo Erectus) and improving them by making a sort of GMO servant by adding some of their own DNA. The story claims they were similar in "essence" or DNA to the ancient "gods" (and we now know this is true as I will show later).
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I imagine that the gods first tried to just train the smartest of the homo Erectus, instead of changing any DNA . . .though it is just a guess. If you've ever seen even the most intelligent apes try to stick with a task, or even understand all the commands, you can guess just how successful it was to train a close relative. . .
Of course, if they understood their commands any better then dogs understand humans now, you might get at least the well trained ones to obey. Unfortunately, according to evolutionary scientists who study this stuff, humans had to go through an evolutionary "SPECIAL EVENT" for language to develop.
So, from how I understand history, this highly technologically advanced people, the Annunaki, genetically spliced into these apes or homo Erectus, the alien's ability to speak. (Not surprisingly this was recorded in many ancient writings, by many nations all over the world as a "gift from the gods" or a tower of Babel type myth.) This would have had to have been the homo Erectus, as they were the first to use at least small words they say.
There are numerous myths that spoke of a god (same word as "Angel" or "son of god") rebelling against the top god/leader's wishes to deny knowledge to these primitive people and "stealing" the knowledge or showing them things like fire. (Like the myth of Prometheus.) The being(s)s who shared this knowledge were sometimes even called "fallen Angels", but even the "fallen" Angel is the same root as the "ilu"or tall alien gods, the Annunaki. Which I discuss in my post: Are God and Satan really one and the same?
Likely the Biblical Nubians were gold digging slaves to the gods when they were settled for a time in Egypt, as their ares has many mines and their name even means "gold" to this day. The "gods" used these dark ape/ men or homo Eretus to mine their gold in Africa for apparently a very long time before that though. There is solid evidence of this mining even today as there are many ancient laser cut gold mine shafts all around ancient structures that are believed to be something to do with the processing of gold by using energetic/harmonic/magnetic power that is still coming from these sites. There are too many of these structures to count, and many can easily be seen from the sky, and in fact, I remember having seen myself! Check this amazing stuff out!
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Evidently this stuff was built by a massive group of "people", but though the area suggests like 15,000 minimum "people", they built easily a million structures that have no use to them as homes. Furthermore, there is no evidence of any civilization besides these structures we believe are for gold processing. So we could ask, "what defines human", and "when did the creation of the human happen?"
Interestingly, the word "human" is from the Latin humanus, the adjectival form of homo. The Latin "homo" derives from the Indo-European root *dhghem, or "earth". Could the first man Adam, really have been made from the "dust" like the Bible claims? In the Sumerian text, "clay" was said to have been used in the process of creating Adam(u) and his name means red too. . .
Homo erectus, is a name derived from Greek and Latin roots meaning upright ape-man BTW.
As translated from the Sumerian cylinder seals, "In the clay vessel the admixture they made, the oval of an Earth female [homo Erectus] . . .with Anunnaki male essence [sperm] they put together. The fertilized egg into the womb of Ninmah [a surrogate alien mother] by Enki was inserted. There was conception."
"To a male child Ninmah birth was giving. Enki the boy child held in his hands, the image of perfection was he." The baby they called Adamu.
These aliens came to our planet in search for gold according to the Sumerians, the first civilization. Gold is a common theme in mythology. It was also mentioned by "God" in Gen. 2:11-12 [in the] land of Hav'ilah. . .there is gold; 12. and the gold of that land is good. . ." Why does God (presuming he was speaking and wrote the Bible) excitedly single out the gold and care about gold if he made it you might wonder?
Gold seems to have been used by the gods as a source of electrical power, because of it's conducting ability. . . as seen in the ark of the covenant and the top of the pyramids. (Some are theorizing now that many of the ancient pyramids were made to extract gold out of water, a theory I have personally been impressed with.)
Gold fillings are also said to be able to conduct so well that radio frequencies have been picked up with them. . .could voices in people's heads be explained by this? While we don't know that people needed fillings at all in the far past, as they ate much healthier, we could guess that as a precious commodity in the far past, as not too long ago, sculls may have been vandalized to take the gold if there were fillings. So we may never know if they used gold for teeth as well.
Gold was apparently also used in massive amounts in dust form in the atmosphere of the aliens home planet, to repair the ozone layer. As it is used by astronauts to deflect radiation in space suits and spaceships today, and being one of the rare mineral that can be broken down to molecules, making it stay put in the atmosphere, it seems a logical story that they claimed 6,000 years ago. . .maybe it could be a solution to our ozone issues too. . .if we had enough left on earth to do it!
I'm not sure if it being in their atmosphere would mean they breathed it, and consequently glowed or what. . .but it seems that maybe they did glow, for whatever reason. Thus the writings and depictions of glowing or halos around the heads of all the gods or demi-gods. Moses after being with the gods on the mountain top was said to have glowed, and even the biblical Mary who was (likely invitro) impregnated by an "Angel". . .(which as I stated in my post: An Atheist admits that the Biblical accounts of origins have their base in truth. Part 4 is the same word that is translated elsewhere as God/gods/sons of God.)
"Ingested particles of gold have been used by mankind for over 5000 years as a medicine in China and by Queen Nefertiti and Cleopatra of ancient Egypt for its amazing health and beauty benefits. Its ability to impart physical and mental health benefits is unparalleled. This precious metal has powerful effects on physical, emotional and spiritual health. It has the ability to increase happiness, bring about a state of complete relaxation and calm the entire nervous system all while increasing IQ by 35%!! Gold can also be used to treat painful conditions of muscles and joints such as those experienced with rheumatoid arthritis. It can also help treat Parkinson’s disease, reverse the symptoms of Attention Deficit Disorder and as an overall remedy for other conditions related to brain degradation. Gold also functions as a catalyst for endorphins and antioxidant enzymes." Or so the internet tells me. . .
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When the Europeans went to America, they were told by the natives that the gold belonged to the gods. . . that had previously been there. This belief in the gold (and actually silver too) belonging to the gods makes a statement of Jesus very profound. . .he said when asked if the people should pay taxes, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar 's, and to God that which is God's". As all precious metals were God's, even though it was being used by Caesar (one of his children), it was clear that Jesus was saying that you should not pay taxes, but give it to the gods. That fits well with his rebel anarchist ways a lot better then the typical translation don't you think?
Anyhow, the rest of the story in the Sumerian text get's better yet!
The work of gold digging was a tough job for the small group of the Annunaki, and they were at the point of mutiny against the head of the operations there when about 300, 000 years ago he left the gold mines to study the nearby primates. So, when he came back they discussed what they could do to help relieve them. They at first disagreed on how they should proceed. Some of the aliens said they should make machines, and others spoke of putting the locals to work. . . as we would today a pack mule, cattle, a horse, etc.
While their own planet had long ago outlawed any species enslaving another, one of the top guys justified using the earths locals that he had been studying (the homo Erectus) and improving them by making a sort of GMO servant by adding some of their own DNA. The story claims they were similar in "essence" or DNA to the ancient "gods" (and we now know this is true as I will show later).
"
I imagine that the gods first tried to just train the smartest of the homo Erectus, instead of changing any DNA . . .though it is just a guess. If you've ever seen even the most intelligent apes try to stick with a task, or even understand all the commands, you can guess just how successful it was to train a close relative. . .
Of course, if they understood their commands any better then dogs understand humans now, you might get at least the well trained ones to obey. Unfortunately, according to evolutionary scientists who study this stuff, humans had to go through an evolutionary "SPECIAL EVENT" for language to develop.
So, from how I understand history, this highly technologically advanced people, the Annunaki, genetically spliced into these apes or homo Erectus, the alien's ability to speak. (Not surprisingly this was recorded in many ancient writings, by many nations all over the world as a "gift from the gods" or a tower of Babel type myth.) This would have had to have been the homo Erectus, as they were the first to use at least small words they say.
There are numerous myths that spoke of a god (same word as "Angel" or "son of god") rebelling against the top god/leader's wishes to deny knowledge to these primitive people and "stealing" the knowledge or showing them things like fire. (Like the myth of Prometheus.) The being(s)s who shared this knowledge were sometimes even called "fallen Angels", but even the "fallen" Angel is the same root as the "ilu"or tall alien gods, the Annunaki. Which I discuss in my post: Are God and Satan really one and the same?
Likely the Biblical Nubians were gold digging slaves to the gods when they were settled for a time in Egypt, as their ares has many mines and their name even means "gold" to this day. The "gods" used these dark ape/ men or homo Eretus to mine their gold in Africa for apparently a very long time before that though. There is solid evidence of this mining even today as there are many ancient laser cut gold mine shafts all around ancient structures that are believed to be something to do with the processing of gold by using energetic/harmonic/magnetic power that is still coming from these sites. There are too many of these structures to count, and many can easily be seen from the sky, and in fact, I remember having seen myself! Check this amazing stuff out!
Source
Evidently this stuff was built by a massive group of "people", but though the area suggests like 15,000 minimum "people", they built easily a million structures that have no use to them as homes. Furthermore, there is no evidence of any civilization besides these structures we believe are for gold processing. So we could ask, "what defines human", and "when did the creation of the human happen?"
Interestingly, the word "human" is from the Latin humanus, the adjectival form of homo. The Latin "homo" derives from the Indo-European root *dhghem, or "earth". Could the first man Adam, really have been made from the "dust" like the Bible claims? In the Sumerian text, "clay" was said to have been used in the process of creating Adam(u) and his name means red too. . .
Homo erectus, is a name derived from Greek and Latin roots meaning upright ape-man BTW.
In chronological order, here's how the Sumerian story goes:
As translated from the Sumerian cylinder seals, "In the clay vessel the admixture they made, the oval of an Earth female [homo Erectus] . . .with Anunnaki male essence [sperm] they put together. The fertilized egg into the womb of Ninmah [a surrogate alien mother] by Enki was inserted. There was conception."
"To a male child Ninmah birth was giving. Enki the boy child held in his hands, the image of perfection was he." The baby they called Adamu.
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So the story continues that Adamu grew up with the Annunaki as a hybrid, part "god", part man. Once they had Adamu, the prototype, the goddess who had birthed him, Ninmah, tweeted the med center back home; she needed seven more women who’d volunteer to be surrogate mothers to grow more clones of Adamu. " Using the blood of Adamu, other hybrids males were made, and born and raised as the original children of the gods . Ninmah and the women swore they’d love and support the babes they bore.
Apparently though, according to the Sumerian text, Adamu’s "malehood; was odd in its shape, with a skin surrounding its forepart, unlike that of Anunnaki "malehood". This wanting our children to be like one of the gods was I believe the origin of circumcision, just as I believe another alien (the greys) had their long sculls copied by many geographically separate groups. After all, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."
Or it could be that the gods circumcised them, because they wanted to make their children look like them. . .oh, and of course, the classic "so they didn't feel different". . .seem like something I hear a lot now from religious fathers as their only reason to circumcise too, funny thing.
Whether for servants or grandchildren, the Annunakki were very interested in the creation having children, but found Adamu unable to impregnate any of the females they had made in a similar fasion as Adamu. So the gods finally helped a woman to be "suited for him" with a surgery using the bone marrow from the extra 13th rib of Adam, which was one of numerous side effects of his hybrid body. (This helped the hybrid's sterility, but there was always a struggle with fertility compared to the previous non hybrid homo Erectus.)
Then they placed them in a garden, naked like animals, telling them to "be fruitful and multiply". Eve soon clothed both of them with fig leaves, as they apparently wanted to be like the gods, or hide that they weren't. . until Adamu was circumcised anyways.
It isn't clear how much more they added or took away in their many human creations and experiments, as we have only started to understand the human genome.
There is a site in Africa now believed to be the origin of the creation "myth" called Adam's calendar, dated at around 75,000 years old. . .and yet even there we have signs of a large bunch of "people" being around for much longer then that! So what was going on?
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Scientists also note that at that same general time frame, "man" had what was called a "special event" of brain growth. It was rapidly accelerated! Though it is unclear to scientists if that "special event" happened to the homo Erectus at all. . .
So, if we are to say that this "Adam" was the creation of all "man" and was dark red like the clay, as many like Zachariah Stitchin, Michael Tellinger, and others would claim, then we have a few issues with that. . .For one, there was no sign of behavior different then monkeys other then fire used by the homo Erectus.
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There was also no major change from 400,000 years back (or possibly a lot longer) in the homo Erectus, which would predate any special event, or Adam's calendar. So while I suppose you could define slowly evolving monkeys as man, I would suspect that when the brain had a huge jump in evolution, that may be a LITTLE more of a significant change worthy of this event. . .If homo erectus had been effected by the "special event" of brain growth at all, it was probably because of interbreeding with the next model. . .the big brained Neanderthals.
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In the next post I will discuss further whether we can fit known science like DNA and much more with the story of creation. First we must find the gods in archaeology. This I will do in my next post : "Real evidence of God? Part 3"
Apparently though, according to the Sumerian text, Adamu’s "malehood; was odd in its shape, with a skin surrounding its forepart, unlike that of Anunnaki "malehood". This wanting our children to be like one of the gods was I believe the origin of circumcision, just as I believe another alien (the greys) had their long sculls copied by many geographically separate groups. After all, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."
Or it could be that the gods circumcised them, because they wanted to make their children look like them. . .oh, and of course, the classic "so they didn't feel different". . .seem like something I hear a lot now from religious fathers as their only reason to circumcise too, funny thing.
Whether for servants or grandchildren, the Annunakki were very interested in the creation having children, but found Adamu unable to impregnate any of the females they had made in a similar fasion as Adamu. So the gods finally helped a woman to be "suited for him" with a surgery using the bone marrow from the extra 13th rib of Adam, which was one of numerous side effects of his hybrid body. (This helped the hybrid's sterility, but there was always a struggle with fertility compared to the previous non hybrid homo Erectus.)
Then they placed them in a garden, naked like animals, telling them to "be fruitful and multiply". Eve soon clothed both of them with fig leaves, as they apparently wanted to be like the gods, or hide that they weren't. . until Adamu was circumcised anyways.
It isn't clear how much more they added or took away in their many human creations and experiments, as we have only started to understand the human genome.
There is a site in Africa now believed to be the origin of the creation "myth" called Adam's calendar, dated at around 75,000 years old. . .and yet even there we have signs of a large bunch of "people" being around for much longer then that! So what was going on?
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Scientists also note that at that same general time frame, "man" had what was called a "special event" of brain growth. It was rapidly accelerated! Though it is unclear to scientists if that "special event" happened to the homo Erectus at all. . .
So, if we are to say that this "Adam" was the creation of all "man" and was dark red like the clay, as many like Zachariah Stitchin, Michael Tellinger, and others would claim, then we have a few issues with that. . .For one, there was no sign of behavior different then monkeys other then fire used by the homo Erectus.
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There was also no major change from 400,000 years back (or possibly a lot longer) in the homo Erectus, which would predate any special event, or Adam's calendar. So while I suppose you could define slowly evolving monkeys as man, I would suspect that when the brain had a huge jump in evolution, that may be a LITTLE more of a significant change worthy of this event. . .If homo erectus had been effected by the "special event" of brain growth at all, it was probably because of interbreeding with the next model. . .the big brained Neanderthals.
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In the next post I will discuss further whether we can fit known science like DNA and much more with the story of creation. First we must find the gods in archaeology. This I will do in my next post : "Real evidence of God? Part 3"
It is difficult for me to continue reading many of your blogs on topics of science or religion because almost immediately in the first sentence or paragraph I am already very well aware that our paradigms are so far off from each other, I will not be able to meet on common ground to even comprehend much of what you are saying as even valid. I have a very mathematical way of thinking...I see things in patterns. I start with the beginning and go from there. Your beginning is always so far off from where my beginning is, I get lost. When I get lost, it is a feeling of utter disagreement to the point of not even being able to find anything I can grasp and work with to form a comment or opinion....thus, I don't have anything to say.
ReplyDeleteExample: "The origin of life. . .sidestepping the obvious facts of the evolution of the universe, and even the evolution and branching off of animal and plant life from the naturally occurring RNA (the precursor of DNA), let's discuss the start of man."
DeleteRight there...I disagree with your view of what you are saying here. You state as fact what is not fact and cannot be proven as fact, either. However, you state it and move forward in your article as if what you said is true and undeniable. What you state in the beginning of this article is not proven or default. I am not alone, and this is not my sole opinion but the opinion of many many people. I will post another comment to quote someone else who I feel put it very well.
Posted by a friend with a picture of him standing in front of a very large redwood tree in a forest:
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Meet my ant and uncle (actually great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, etc. ant and uncle)
Actually, I did not misspell. It is hard to see, but my relative is a small ant crawling on the redwood, who is a distant relative. You see, billions of years ago, there was soup. Incredibly specific parts of that soup came together, connected, and bonded to form RNA (and eventually DNA) with an incredibly precise code that made life. Luckily, in that code it also was programed to reproduce, or it would not have mattered. It was still not alive because it was inorganic material, but fortunately it was struck with lightning and that made it alive (as lightning usually does to things:) That little guy multiplied and survived and fortunately his code was mutated over and over (like the children around the Chernobyl disaster who had their code mutated and were severely deformed), but although mutations of complex digital codes is almost always (if not always) bad, it was good for his relatives and by good mutations and he changed and changed and he became the ant, redwood and me! We are related, right?"
He is speaking from a sarcastic point of view to make his point.
I just believe that, without being able to scientifically prove what happened when the universe was started, the viewpoint that "God" created and designed everything makes more sense to me than a spontaneous accident just happening out of "nothing." For me, intelligent Godly design "on purpose" seems more likely than a Big Bang accident that happened to form every bit of life we see, in all it's complexities.
ReplyDeleteWhen I observe what we have now in life, my opinion and belief stands on that of an intelligent Creator of everything versus the most improbable, never to be repeated, accidental bang.
Questions for you: How come this bang and accident only happened one time billions of years ago? How come it never happened again, and we don't see any of these in between mutations now? Why is it that anger and emotions are frequently the response seen when someone says they disagree and believe God created everything? If it is proven without any doubt, why get angry? Furthermore, why care about what a creationist believes?
I know why I care; why do you care?
The following link is one reason that often comes to mind when I am unable to wrap my mind around the billions of years theory:
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I guess I just presume my readers are astute in evolution, but here's a small education from my humble blog. http://passionateproject.blogspot.com/2013/11/i-had-dream.html I use to think it was just easier to believe a magic being just said a few magic words and the universe was made, but then I started learning about the universe through great scientists like Stephen Hawking, and realized just how silly it is to give a non answer to such a big question. You might as well say, "I don't know how the world was made" as say "God did it." Yet science shows by many proven methods that the big bang did happen, and have even speculated that it could have happened many times, and we would never know. Science is out of it's rhelm in some questions, because time and everything science uses for a reference was not around before the big bang.
ReplyDeleteAs for why get angry at those who refuse to get an education from anyone who has a degree and all the pros of science and biology that almost all stand by the big bang and evolution (macro at very least)? I have seen few get angry at ignorance. Most people only object to the innocent children being indoctrinated in proven fallacies. Of course, it gets irritating dealing with those who state their piece, give their opinion, or evidence, then abruptly close the conversation. As if, they are closed to being challenged and having a fair trial for their evidence. That is typical. The second most typical is when they are fact checked and found wanting (anytime they don't close the conversation) they get defensive. I know better then to feel or get defensive. I care about wrong being spouted as right, and it messing with a person's whole worldview, or I wouldn't care so much. My husband tells me I care too much about humanity, and it gets me in trouble. . .but I think it is worth it in the end. We make the future world that our children have to live in.
I tried to go to a post you put on my FB page about carbon dating, but it wasn't your blog. So, I will just post here, since this is where we are at right now. :)
ReplyDeleteI would like to discuss the fact we have no way of proving or knowing the levels of oxygen that have been in our atmosphere except what we know now. There is no way to deny that. I believe the levels have not always been what they are now. If this is possible, which it is, that would change how carbon dating results are used...as in they are inaccurate and unusable without the information of what the oxygen levels were in our atmosphere throughout the entire existence of the test material.
I don't agree with any "age" said to be obtained using carbon dating for this reason.
One more thing I would like to add here, which may come as a small surprise, is I also believe a big bang occurred at the beginning of the universe. The parts I don't agree with are how all the living beings were formed and the age of everything.
DeleteWell, the fossil record is very clear on this point. There is small stuff that evolves and changes to slightly different things in newer dated layers, evolving to more changes in newer yet layers. This is proven worldwide, beyond a shadow of a doubt. This even young earth creationists admit too, but they won't connect the dots, and see that this happened from the start. Instead they will just claim that we started magically with "kinds". Those "kinds" started from other similar, but less mutated animals, and so on back to the first spark of RNA. We know that the big bang created the planets, and the life on the planet here was naturally ocurring. Even if scientists have the dates off because of the stuff they presume, that doesn't give cause to throw out all their data on what we do know. I think we only disagree about how all living things form, and if you were a biologist, or studied one, you would not disagree anymore.
DeleteIt's easy to just assume that the Genesis account is just one among many myths, but that just isn't so: http://carm.org/genesis-creation-enuma-elish
ReplyDeleteI looked at the link, and it showed me little I didn't know, and what a weak arguement creationists defending the Bible have. I didn't know that" The Enuma Elish omits major aspects of creation such as vegetation, animals, the sun and light" though, and I am not surprised, as so does the Sumerian. Another proof that the Bible is an evolved book, because that is the natural and logical evolution of a created man. As those aspects of evolution have a long history of micro evolution in the fossil record, and their originating spark of life has been replicated as naturally starting from RNA to DNA, as well as understanding the big bang, and how it formed the universe, and when, the evolved tale in the Bible is shown to be either hugely mistranslated, or just plain wrong!
DeleteRead it better, I said that. "The Hebrews took much of the knowledge of creation from the Babylonians, who had in turn learned their stories from the Sumerians. Differences in Religion are purely in the details and the facades we place around our core beliefs in order to appear unique." Other accounts speak less of personal accounts, but of a creation of another race of man. Others seem to know little of that and only discuss the gods, and show numerous depictions of advanced technology. So yes, there are other creation stories, but as the one that was the origin of all the creation of man ones was the Sumerian tale, it would be wise to take that as your source.
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